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Seeking Reviews for Power4Patriots
Have you used any of the Power4Patriots.com products? We’d like to hear from you! I noticed an ad from this company today. As much as I am absolutely in favor of off-grid alternative energy, some of the advertising techniques made me take pause. Let’s take a closer look.
The Power4Patriots.com website greets you with the following bold statement:
FREE Video Reveals “Weird” Trick
To Slash Your Power Bill & Beat
Obama’s Electricity Monopoly For Good
There are immediately two things I do not like about this website. First, the “weird trick” advertising angle has been used (certainly overused) over the past 3 years (see the list below). Whoever they have hired to do their advertising should probably try to avoid sounding like the scammers peddling acai berry and wrinkle creams.
The second thing I don’t like about this site is the video presentation. It’s extremely similar to those seen by Stansberry Research and Barton Publishing. I find these whiteboard videos quite annoying. They hide the rewind and fast-forward buttons so we are forced to watch all of it, we can’t see how long the video is or how much time is left once we start watching it, the whole thing smacks of an elementary school presentation, and they ramble on and on and on without ever really saying anything except, “Keep watching” and that they’ll explain more in the CD-ROMs they want you to purchase.
If we’re looking for red flags, another possible flag is that the website power4patriots.com has only existed for less than a year as of this writing. That is, it was only created on November 12, 2011.
Their refund policy listed on their Terms & Conditions is also rather underwhelming:
Your purchase of a product or service or ticket to an event may or may not provide for any refund. Each specific product, service, event or course will specify its own refund policy.
A few other items in their FAQ are curious. It is implied that the solar panels created with this system won’t be directly accessed from your wall sockets:
Furthermore you cannot hook into your electric power box so the power you generated wouldn’t necessary come straight from your wall plugs.
Another answer in their FAQ refers to these “uncertified” panels which cannot be hooked up to the city grid.
That leads us to the product itself. After watching this video, we find that essentially we are asked to spend $27 to buy instructions on how to build our own solar power systems, turbines, and solar hot water heater. They also offer a deluxe $67 package that includes DVDs and online material.
The questions I have are whether or not these instructions live up to the hype of the video and if users who purchased them felt they were worth it.
From an advertising standpoint, I’m quite underwhelmed. As far as the product goes, I’d like to see if perhaps the $27 or $67 is worth it, despite the spammer feel of the website and presentation, and the fact that it was seen on an ad block on FoxNews – notorious for some of the worst spam advertisers.
So we are looking for input from our readers. If you have any experience with Power4Patriots instructional videos or other products, we’d like to hear from you. Let us know what you thought of them in the comments below.
We’ll try to weed out the obviously fake or trolling comments as best as we can.
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After watching the manipulative sales pitch, which said P4P was banned by Google, I searched Google, and found a multitude of links to them – an out and out direct lie. Not even a lie of omission, but outright lie! Also linking their business to people’s fears about “Obama”, “Liberals”, etc. is despicable! Their advertising goes to the worst in people. Buyer Beware!
we have not recieved our manual’s like they said we would..how can they stay on the air and keep rippin off people off..an when you cll the man you cant leave a message or anything.id like to go to the place in nashville. i live in bowling green ky 30 to 40 miles from nashville and go an check it out..i wnat the so called manuals..iv emailed them an left our num..606-688-1114 kerri willis..
Typical RepubliCON. Nothing but divisive lies.
Said by a typical DumbocRat
Nothing but lies with a couple words they heard said by their master from a thesaurus.
irony
Liberals live and breath on division, that’s why they HATE the ‘United’ States. If we’re united we stand, divided we fall and the liberals know that so they divide us by race, ethnicity, class, etc. to pit one against another all the while championing that they ‘care about the little people’. Hell they’ve had a war on the poor for decades and now they intend on eliminating the Middle class too. That’s all courtesy of the liberal democrats.
Republicans believe in ONE nation, not splinter groups of Americans that democrats continue to expand upon in their hyphenated view of Americans. I expect even you have seen the census forms that hyphenate one by race and ethnicity.
Liberals are destroying America and have no business running our lives when they cannot even run their own.
Just do a google search for”Frank Bates Complaints” or “Power4patriots” complaints. That will keep you busy for quite a while!
I HATE scammers, especially those who are Patriots for Profit!!!
Tom Dee
i got suckerd into this shit put the basterds in jail
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LMAO
I fear I’ve been punk’d.The online Carney act was a bit confusing,but at the same time I’m interested in the items mentioned in the presentation. I download’d the PDF files from his website (once the money cleared)just browsing threw the videos its funny how the mood changes from this whole gloom and doom b.s. to a typical soft spoken buy all your supply’s here routine. Guess I’ll re-post in the next 7-14 days, but the way its looking I’m not going to hold my breath.300% refund my azz I should of seen threw that crap.
In there deffence after reading reviews last nite I requested my order be canceled and my money be returned.10 minutes later my money was back on my debit card. Think what you want. I have nothing more to say on this matter
If you ordered by credit card, you can always call up your credit card company to cancel the payment, thus I don’t understand the fuss. Plus I think we should all place an order and then wait for the materials to arrive and then return it to them without opening it. That way you will not incur any postage charge. Then call your credit card company to cancel it the following day. Just tell your credit card company that Power4Patriot.com had refused to cancel your order and you have returned the material to them alreay. That ought to teach them a lesson….
The only differnce I see in the product is that I bought my 4 panels premade from the hardware store. Doing it yourself drops the price for the solar panels in half but the panels are not the most money in the system. The panels have come down in price a lot. This is probably a good map for those that arn’t electrically inclined. Maps don’t tell you where you want to go but they can keep you off some nasty side roads.
The rest is common wiring but you have to use dedicated circuits that are off grid. Three things need to be understood.
1) The solar and wind charge batteries.
2) The Batteries attach to an inverter for 120 volts output.
3) The 120V 5000W Inverted power goes to the house.
Simple enough.
To have county power and battery sourced power needs a Special house wiring panel like you would use for a backup generator. Go to Home depo and check out the Enerac Power Panel. Asl questions. Not everything is on the backup power. Organge circuits are the off grid power ones. Fridge Freezer etc. Need an electrician for this.
If your comfortable running two wiring systems then its a great solution. Consider running all your lights on Battery. But again you need an electrician to set it up or you run into code violations and problems with insurance.
Other than that its great where electricity is expensive and where you can’t get power.
Advertising for the P4P product is a Hook Technique. But what isn’t. Oh yeah, there is no cap and trade. So the Obama thing is a little far fetched.
It takes a few years to pay for stuff like this and even doing it yourself is not free. Long term it is a great thing to do to keep polution out of the air that keeps giving everyone allergies. But the saving are immediate for part of your bill.
Finally, My system is smaller, but does the same thing for my 1500 sq. ft cabin that is used 4 months of the year. And yes I have a backup generator for summer weeks with lots of kids, gaming, watching TV, and up all night.
Nice to see a logical post and not an of the cuff response.
The Power4Patriots is a major scam. The photos of their various energy savong devices have nothing to do with energy, its just a gimmick for you to think there is some magic bullet you install. Be prepared to buy all the equipment, then try and install it, and you will probably need an electrician to complete it all. The slick scam artist that runs this should be in Jail, if he is not already there.
John Bradley Esq.,
I’m positively agree with you – life time jail for dose scams .
Where in the video does it say he’s going to give you all the equipment? Common sense should dictate that your not going to get all the equipment that you need for such a small price. Also, if you put ANYTHING electrical in your house, it normally requires an electrician. Don’t hate on the guy for selling you EXACTLY what he said he would. Manuals and dvds. COMMON SENSE PEOPLE….. The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.
Yes this is a rip off I also ordered the product and at the end of the order was told if I don’t get it to let them know. What? No phone number and no email. Well it never came. $7.00 shipping charge and also tax on “information” and a goofy receipt from a company you cannot contact with a download link that links to NOTHING I ordered off the video on the internet but why is Glenn Beck letting them advertise on his channel?
So very wrong.
Beck is a whore with no morals or ethics
Thank you, Steve, for your information that contains both the positive and negative (actually not negative but informative downside)experience. You are savvy. The rest of you give me scam info in your own ways. I feel that I can make a decent decision as to what I will do with this product-at my own risk. If this is a scam, eventually things will catch up with it. I was very interested initially but wary because the price seemed too good to be true and feedback from everyone has me on the alert. I feel politicians have placed this country in a bad situation. I am attempting to prepare my family for the worst case scenario so I search for products to make me independent because all of us are so government dependent. Thank you all for your feedback.
I loved it when this guy went off on Living in the Northeast and how many times his electric Well wouldn’t work and all the food he had to throw out because of power shortages. I live on the ocean in the Northeast and I did not once lose power this winter not even a flicker of the lights. This kind sounds like a survivalist. I am running the other way.
In response to:
Canine says, on February 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm.
Canine quotes, “Typical RepubliCON. Nothing but divisive lies.”
As I am not a Republican, and an independent thinker looking for knowledge about a product.
I have to ask, “ What the heck are you attempting to say about the subject at hand?”
Nothing?
If you are just expressing yourself just to be rude and uninformative congratulations you did it.
Which does tells us volumes about you though.
Easily distracted, have little, if any, self esteem, needy, consider yourself more important than the subject of conversation, and voted for the Socialist Democratic Party.
Oh, and your God Obama doesn’t know how to really tell the truth, but, man can he spread hate to his blind followers.
Please don’t respond to this observation. Like I said, I am only here to get information on P4P.
And if they are running a scam, you can bet they voted for the Socialist Democratic Party, because like most socialist they hide behind good names to disguise their alternative motive.
I hope you someday are able to find truth in life.
They probably got a couple of million $ federal green energy grant to get us wasting our money and then believing that all non-commercial systems are scams.
Personally, while I love alternative energy and off the grid things I never was able to get past their ad. I find the format annoying and the pitch just screams scam to me.
Thank you for letting us know it’s just re-packaged ‘use alternative energy’ stuff.
Good reviews are hard to get, I guess. From all the negative feedback about the shipping and actually just getting the product, I feel I will not even try to pay for this information. I wish there were some people who actually tried this stuff and then reviewed about it, but businesses should be able to at least ship their product in a timely manner without problems.
As for you all who are preparing for sensible things like power outages, recessions, and disasters; don’t despair, there is plenty of really good information in blogs out there and that information is free. There are ways to use passive solar for heating your house and water and also cooking, it hardly costs anything. My advise is to prepare and practice with low cost solutions you make yourself.
My wife and I are helping people in our neighborhood get prepared for emergencies and most of the sensible things you can do don’t cost much, they take more time than money, you have YouTube don’t you? Don’t buy into Glen Beck’s Chicken-little-fear-mongering, do it the right way.
Solar is fine, and will be one of the only ways to get electricity if the grid goes down. I may even get a smaller solar system, just in case.
However, we found a much easier and far cheaper way to reduce our electricity bill. We are using the only electric (and gas) company I know of that gives folks free or very cheap electricity and/or gas. Nothing to spend on solar panels, huge batteries, etc. It is quite simple, and run by company a with an A+ BBB rating.
Here’s how it works: Join Ambit Energy as a customer or a consultant. Get 15 friends or family to try them as well. Ambit averages those 15 bills of your friends/family, and deducts that amount from your electric/natural gas bill. Yes it is really that simple. To find out more go to 3w’s TXelectric.JoinAmbit . c om.
If one of your 15 moves, just find another one.
Regrettably Ambit Energy is only in some of the deregulated states. So, if you are in TX, NY, NJ, CT, IL, CA, MD, WA DC, etc, you can use Ambit for your gas and/or your electricity. Don’t expect to hear ads on TV or radio about Ambit, as they are word of mouth, referral based company (network marketing/Multi-level marketing). Yes, that means you can earn money by telling others about this company. check out TXElectric.Energy526 d o t c om.
You don’t have to use them to be a consultant. As a matter of fact, some of their millionaire consultants live in an area not served by Ambit. Yes, this company has been in business just over 6 years and they have already created millionaires out of people who did two simple things: 1. Got a handful of loyal customers (20 max), and helped others do the same thing.
I’m not saying don’t do solar, and I’ve not used this company for solar panels. The video is 90% fluff, and I couldn’t fast forward to key parts, or backup to aspects I wanted to review again. I had to listen to the whole thing all over again. Sorry, but that is lame.
According to the mounting complains on the internet about Ambit Energy scam, over 95% of people who joined Ambit quit and lose their money. If you are the victim of this Ambit Pyramid game you should report to FTC and New York or Taxes attorney general office.
you reply to one scam with another
There are lots of DIY how-to-build a solar power backup. Several guys (haven’t noticed any gals, but I’m sure they’re out there) walk you through the steps to build it yourself. And now that the solar panels have come down a bit in price (as “Steve” said on March 13, 2013), it will cost even less. Do a search on youtube for “solar power backup diy”.